1. dnorman

    d – Gehry in SL would be cool. There is some pretty sweet architecture in there already. I’d love to see what an up-and-coming architect or designer would come up with, without being encumbered by decades of terrestrial design projects.

    so THAT’s what that noise is. The remember-davidicus module was acting up, and mixing up repeat visitors, so Person A might come back and be “remembered” as Person B (and vice versa). Doh. When I get a chance, I’ll take a look.

  2. Trying not to be reflex commenter, considering I am involved with one of the pictured SL places, but…

    I do agree to a point about questioning the strategy of building RL places to scale, etc in Second Life, especially when your construction there has no constraints. Other .edus are building entire campus replicas. On the other hand, I see them as bridges for people to cautiously step into SL, so there is a middle ground between the familiar and the really bizarre.

    Moreso, and your picture where one person alone sits in an empty room, the power comes not with the buildings themselves, but the social interaction when your are in a group. Our “traditional” classroom may be one of the least used places on NMC Campus, but on Oct 18, we had an incredibly successful panel discussion there, with more than 40 avs (some sat on stage, on the floor, hovered in the air). And even if you stand, it’s not like you get tired or sore muscles 😉

    This room, like many others on our sim, also has a subtle feature of no roof, making dropping in and out like you cannot do in RL. Your view is not really limited to where you sit, as anyone can alt/option zoom for a better view form any location, even a mile away.

    And no one can really do massive crowds in SL, as most sims get maxed out when you hit 70, 80 avatars in one place.

    We’ve conducted activities in every range of environment we have on our sim, from the rows and stage, to roof top, to mountain top, to sitting on the grass, to under water… and once people start interacting, the “physical place” seems to matter less and less. And there are some interesting effects when you have events that bridge both RL and SL such as the MacArthur Press Conference last month, when live video was streamed from New York in our campus, where we had a rich backchannel, and even communicated questions from our audience back to RL, all streamed back into world:

    It’s all pretty much experimental lego set, and like you, I am eager to see the things that push back from traditional forms. There is no material cost to rebuilding, and we are already planning to move one of those classrooms from rows to a more flexible circle shape environment.

  3. dnorman

    Alan, I agree that there needs to be a bridge. If people get dropped into some Escheresque transdimensional communal space, the reaction will be more “MwaaaAAAH?” than anything productive. I really meant to attend the virtual sessions, but my SecondLife app was completely hosing my system every time I launched it – I only recently got it working again.

    One thing that really threw me back was the virtual wheelchair in the boardroom. It’s cool, a bit gimmicky, but so totally against the nature of a nonphysical reality.

    I have no idea what a more creative or effective use of a fluid virtual space might be. I’m not alone in that, which is why we’re falling back on making virtual copies of real places. But, I’m sure we’ll have to figure that out before this medium really lives up to its potential.

    You NMC folks are doing some really cool stuff that needs to be done – don’t read my post as any NMC bashing. It was just the closest example I had at hand.

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